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	<title>Comments on: October 30: Ukraine (UA)</title>
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	<description>A well organised, automated, and easy to read, easy to understand timeline of events, from new case confirmations, new infections, and school closings to technical details on the H1N1 Swine Influenza/Flu pandemic.</description>
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		<title>By: mememem</title>
		<link>http://trancy.net/2009/10/30/october-30-ukraine-ua/comment-page-1/#comment-2109</link>
		<dc:creator>mememem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need to compare H1N1 to anything? It&#039;s not REPLACING seasonal flu, and the seasonal flu doesn&#039;t effect healthy people the way H1N1 deaths do. When seasonal flu goes around it&#039;s just going to complicate things even MORE.

If the number of kids being killed were actually being killed by a murderer, we would have our ears perked right? H1N1, the Flu and so on are murderers of children and for us with kids with &quot;underlying conditions&quot; (AKA asthma, hang nail Pfft) it&#039;s a scary thing.

My son has just got out of the hospital with pneumonia from a bacterial infection, if he catches H1N1 OR seasonal flu, I doubt he&#039;d make it, so you  bet I&#039;m keeping up with the news about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need to compare H1N1 to anything? It&#8217;s not REPLACING seasonal flu, and the seasonal flu doesn&#8217;t effect healthy people the way H1N1 deaths do. When seasonal flu goes around it&#8217;s just going to complicate things even MORE.</p>
<p>If the number of kids being killed were actually being killed by a murderer, we would have our ears perked right? H1N1, the Flu and so on are murderers of children and for us with kids with &#8220;underlying conditions&#8221; (AKA asthma, hang nail Pfft) it&#8217;s a scary thing.</p>
<p>My son has just got out of the hospital with pneumonia from a bacterial infection, if he catches H1N1 OR seasonal flu, I doubt he&#8217;d make it, so you  bet I&#8217;m keeping up with the news about it.</p>
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		<title>By: BenwatchingsinceApril_Good_Job</title>
		<link>http://trancy.net/2009/10/30/october-30-ukraine-ua/comment-page-1/#comment-2102</link>
		<dc:creator>BenwatchingsinceApril_Good_Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manu-actually-about 1700 people were &quot;confirmed&quot; as dying of the flu last year in the United States. This a big mistake for anyone, and especially the CDC, to use the 36,000 &quot;seasonal flu&quot; number to compare a &quot;novel&quot; Flu.

Let&#039;s go ahead now and make our own estimate for H1N1 based on the actual &quot;confirmed&quot;  deaths from last year compared to the &quot;estimate&quot;(36,000) that so many throw around so loosely.  This would mean for every &quot;confirmed seasonal&quot; flu death last year there were 20 additional deaths.

So...Now we take the number of currently &quot;confirmed&quot; H1N1 deaths and apply the same ratio (although I think the ratio will, in the end,  be higher for H1N1).  Today (per wikipedia) we have 1451 &quot;confirmed&quot; deaths.  Multiply that by our &quot;CDC&quot; estimation ratio of 20. 

            1 4 5 1  x  2 0  =  2 9 , 0 2 0   H 1 N 1   D E A T H S  SO FAR! ! !

Regular FLU SEASON would have only just begun.

So I guess you are right..............................for another week or so anyway.  And then look out.

WE WILL BE LUCKY IF WE ONLY LOOSE 90,000 AMERICAN LIVES THIS FLU SEASON TO  H1N1.

Take a look at this link and ask yourself why they include the Influenza and Pneumonia Syndrome* deaths.  These death counts are presently more than 5:1 compared to H1N1 confirmed deaths.   And this was only what has been &quot;reported&quot; to the CDC as of 10/27/09.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/updates/us/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manu-actually-about 1700 people were &#8220;confirmed&#8221; as dying of the flu last year in the United States. This a big mistake for anyone, and especially the CDC, to use the 36,000 &#8220;seasonal flu&#8221; number to compare a &#8220;novel&#8221; Flu.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go ahead now and make our own estimate for H1N1 based on the actual &#8220;confirmed&#8221;  deaths from last year compared to the &#8220;estimate&#8221;(36,000) that so many throw around so loosely.  This would mean for every &#8220;confirmed seasonal&#8221; flu death last year there were 20 additional deaths.</p>
<p>So&#8230;Now we take the number of currently &#8220;confirmed&#8221; H1N1 deaths and apply the same ratio (although I think the ratio will, in the end,  be higher for H1N1).  Today (per wikipedia) we have 1451 &#8220;confirmed&#8221; deaths.  Multiply that by our &#8220;CDC&#8221; estimation ratio of 20. </p>
<p>            1 4 5 1  x  2 0  =  2 9 , 0 2 0   H 1 N 1   D E A T H S  SO FAR! ! !</p>
<p>Regular FLU SEASON would have only just begun.</p>
<p>So I guess you are right&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;for another week or so anyway.  And then look out.</p>
<p>WE WILL BE LUCKY IF WE ONLY LOOSE 90,000 AMERICAN LIVES THIS FLU SEASON TO  H1N1.</p>
<p>Take a look at this link and ask yourself why they include the Influenza and Pneumonia Syndrome* deaths.  These death counts are presently more than 5:1 compared to H1N1 confirmed deaths.   And this was only what has been &#8220;reported&#8221; to the CDC as of 10/27/09.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/updates/us/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/updates/us/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Manu</title>
		<link>http://trancy.net/2009/10/30/october-30-ukraine-ua/comment-page-1/#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>Manu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a typical &quot;fear marketing&quot; campaign by the local politicians and World Health Organisation (marketing branch of the pharma industry) -  you have to remember presidential elections are coming on 10th Jan 2010.

Pay no attention to these panic news, just to compare 36000 died of the flu last year in the US alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a typical &#8220;fear marketing&#8221; campaign by the local politicians and World Health Organisation (marketing branch of the pharma industry) &#8211;  you have to remember presidential elections are coming on 10th Jan 2010.</p>
<p>Pay no attention to these panic news, just to compare 36000 died of the flu last year in the US alone.</p>
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